Topic suggested by Murali Sankar on Wed Feb 10 21:24:49 .
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This thread intends to enlighten those who do not know the swaraproayoga patern of Rags. Whoever wants to know the swarams of Ragas may raise a query here. |
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- From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.226)
on: Wed Feb 10 21:25:40
I am starting this with a query of mine
Please let me know of the aarohanam and avarohanams of :
Tilank, Jog, Kapi(carnatic), desh, Brindavan saranga, sarnaga and Hameer Kalyan.
Sriram and Geetha and Rajaraman, can you help?
- From: RR (@ qt-ce.singnet.com.sg)
on: Thu Feb 11 02:25:20
Murali Sankar,
See if this helps
http://forumhub.com/indcmusic/cragas.txt
- From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.227)
on: Fri Feb 12 11:19:39
Thx a lot RR. It is indeed very helpful
- From: Clay (@ spider-we051.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Mar 5 15:23:14
I looked over the list of raga's given at the link above. I understand the sargam (i think it is called -S N D P M G R S-) but not the numbers listed after the letters(notes). If anyone could help me with this I would greatly apprieciate it.
- From: RR (@ pb.cache.nlanr.net)
on: Fri Mar 5 20:37:42
Hi Clay,
basically the numbers are used to cover the 12 notes, as follows.
Key 1 - WHITE - S - Shadjam-(C)
Key 2 - BLACK - R1-Suddha Rishabam-(D flat)
Key 3 - WHITE - R2 (G1)-Chatusruti Rishabam-(D)
Key 4 - BLACK - G2 (R3)-Sadharana Ghandharam-(E flat)
Key 5 - WHITE - G3-Anthara Ghandharam-(E)
Key 6 - WHITE - M1-Suddha Madyamam-(F)
Key 7 - BLACK - M2-Pradhi Madyamam-(F Sharp)
Key 8 - WHITE - P -Panjamam-(G)
Key 9 - BLACK - D1-Suddha Daivatham-(A flat)
Key 10- WHITE - D2 (N1)-Chatusruti Diavatham-(A)
Key 11- BLACK - N2 (D3)-Kaisika Nishadam-(B flat)
Key 12- WHITE - N3-Kakali Nishadam-(B)
Hope this helps
- From: RR (@ pb.cache.nlanr.net)
on: Fri Mar 5 21:49:05
An interesting article
http://www.sruti.com/appre.htm
- From: Clay (@ spider-wa054.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Mar 6 13:27:45
Can't thank you enough for the explination of the notes--I knew it was something like that. With the link you gave with the list of different raga's, this opens a world of musical exploration for me and that is a true gift. Glad I finally got on the internet.
- From: Vatsala (@ bkj-cache80.jaring.my)
on: Sun Jun 20 08:47:11
Hi..I have just started playing geethanggal with my veenai..and I love it dearly...but I wish i had some notes /swaras for some nice songs...like Alaipaayuthee Kannaa..or Kannan Varuvaan kathai Solluvaan..or anyhting semi clssic that i could play ...if anyone can help me get some of those notes...I would be really grateful ..thanking you in advance..Vatsala
- From: lakshman (@ hse-kit-ppp38751.sympatico.ca)
on: Tue Sep 28 08:00:29
I am looking for the arohana/avarohana of the following ragas: Ahirinata, Amarasindhu, Ashadakannada, Behagdeshikam, Bhuvanamanohari, Deshalam, Deshikachenjuruti, Deshikakhamas, Gangadharini, Harihamsa, Harikalyani, Harisarasvati, Karnashravya, Karnatakanata, Parsi, Parvatavardhini, Rajahamsini, Ragadhvani, Rajkauns, Rayagaula, Sanga, Savita, Shaktipriya, Shaktirupini, Shivakalyana, Shrikantimati, Shuddhachintamani, Bhavini, Bahnupriya, Bhavya, Devasalaga, Jalini, Kalyanadeshika, Kamaripriya, Keshavapriya, Komalapriya, Krishnaveni, Lavantipriya, Madhulika, Meghana, Natyadharana, Parvatnandana, Prarthana, Pratimadhyamavati, Samakadambari, Samanapriya, Santanabhashini, Shivamanohari, Sindhukapi, Sindhuratilaka, Suratimallar, Svarnamukhi, Tanamukhri, Tapasvini, Tivrachandrika, Vanarupini, Vikhavati, Vinavadani, Vishnupriya, Vishvapriya, Vishveshvarapriya. I did not make up these names. There are compositions in these rare ragas.
- From: thiyagarajan (@ 164.164.128.13)
on: Mon Dec 13 06:25:52
Could you please send me the arohana/awarohana for madhuvanthi.
- From: Lakshman (@ hse-kit-ppp38838.sympatico.ca)
on: Mon Dec 13 10:15:26
Thiagarajan:
Madhuvanti is a janya of mela 59 (Dharmavati). The scale is:
N3 S G2 M2 P N3 S; S N3 D2 P M2 G2 R2 S
- From: Sree (@ 134.243.96.152)
on: Mon Dec 13 13:12:45
Lakshman:
Something doesn't seem right about the ArOhanam. Are you sure it starts as
N3 S G2
- From: Sree (@ 134.243.96.152)
on: Mon Dec 13 13:15:55
Madhuvanthi's A/A should be
S G2 M2 P N3 S
S N3 D2 P M2 G2 R2 S
- From: Lakshman (@ ppp10282.on.bellglobal.com)
on: Mon Dec 13 15:22:42
Sree:
The scale given in Ragapravaham on page 225 under mela 59 (dharmavati) starts with N3. Even in Raganidhi vol 3, page 100, the arohana starts with N3.
- From: Vasu (@ 3.austin-01-02rs.tx.dial-access.att.net)
on: Mon Dec 13 19:52:53
Lakshman:
from my notes:
Vinavadini: janya of MK28 (Harikambodhi)
srgpns; snpgrs
Is Samanapriya diff from Sumanapriya? I have a recording of Sowmya in the latter: janya of MK28, srgmgpdps; sdspgmrs.
if you learn about others pls post them here.
- From: Sree (@ 134.243.96.152)
on: Tue Dec 14 09:37:22
Lakshman:
I thought that A/A starts with S. I'm surprised that madhuvanthi starts with N3. Are there other rAgams that start with a note other than S?
Regards
Sree
- From: Lakshman (@ hse-kit-ppp38867.sympatico.ca)
on: Tue Dec 14 09:42:19
Vasu:
You are right about the scale of Vinavadini. There is a raga called samanapriya with a composition by Chitravina Ravikiran but I do not have the details of this raga. There is a composition by Muttiah Bhagavatar in the raga Sumanapriya which is a janya of Harikambhoji. There is another raga called Samapriya and it is a janya of mela 21 Kiravani with the notes S R2 M1 P D1 S; S D1 P M1 R2 S. Again there is a composition by Chitravina Ravikiran.
- From: Lakshman (@ ppp7853.on.bellglobal.com)
on: Tue Dec 14 10:51:34
Sree:
Yes there are many ragas that so not start with Sa. Offhand I can think of Saindhavi which is a janya of Kharaharapriya and has exactly the same notes but starts with Ni. Also Kurinji, a janya of Shankarabharana. I can look up and give you the names of other ragas if you want.
- From: Sree (@ 134.243.96.152)
on: Tue Dec 14 12:48:03
Lakshman:
Well...you are correct. There indeed are many janya rAgams that start with a note other than Sa.
Thanks...
- From: Vasu (@ s03.austin.ibm.com)
on: Tue Dec 14 12:56:02
Sree, Lakshman:
From my memory, Chittaranjani, punnagavarali, a janya MK15 starting with N. Anybody know what significance does it bring to the raga if a/A starts with non-Sa?
- From: Vasu (@ 210.austin-03-04rs.tx.dial-access.att.net)
on: Tue Dec 14 18:52:58
Thats Nadanamakriya, starting with N (janya of MK15).
- From: Thiyagarajan (@ vishwa.wipinfo.soft.net)
on: Thu Jan 6 05:50:54 EST 2000
Hai Happy Y2k to all.
I came to know a raga called ragashri.What is the A/A of the raga and how it differs from natakurinchi.
thanks in advance.
- From: Lakshman (@ ppp7842.on.bellglobal.com)
on: Thu Jan 6 16:56:50 EST 2000
Thiagarajan:
Rageshri is a janya of Khamaj Thaat (Harikambhoji) and has three different aro/avas.
1. S G3 M1 D2 N3 S; S N2 D2 M1 G3 R2 S
2. -do- ; S N3 D2 M1 G3 R2 S
3. -do- ; S N3 D2 N3 D2 M1 G3 R2 S
Natakuranji is also a janya of Harikambhoji mela and two scales are available.
1. S R2 G3 M1 D2 N2 S; S N2 D2 M1 G3 S
2. S R2 G3 M1 N2 D2 N2 P D2 N2 S; S N2 D2 M1 G3 M1 P M1 G3 R2 S
- From: Lakshman (@ ppp2624.on.bellglobal.com)
on: Sat Jan 8 08:28:29 EST 2000
Thiyagarajan
After I posted the above response I thought your query was familiar. You had asked the same question on another thread - Carnatic music- on December 13th and I had given you a similar answer promptly.
- From: Thiyagarajan (@ 164.164.128.13)
on: Tue Jan 11 06:47:22 EST 2000
Lakshman:
Sorry I forgot about that and didn't see u'r reply there.
Thanks a lot.
- From: nzakki (@ alcfpxy1.att.com)
on: Mon Feb 21 14:20:26 EST 2000
Is there a list of Hindustani classical Ragas ordered by time of day/night they are to be sung?
Thanks.
- From: Vennila (@ m50.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sun Feb 27 06:26:03 EST 2000
Hi, there is a book Raga-bava-artha research study of various ragas like origin, charactor, raga singing time, some composition in the raga many more interesting things- written by Natyacharyaji. Even his RAGA ALA'PANA OF 225 RAGAS is a nice guide to music learners at a limit. It is available at shiv_ranjani@yahoo.com / or/ natyacharya@vsnl.com Guruji 45 books on music &dance which guide very accurately to the learners. Certainly it won't see your mistakes but shows a good way. for learning ragas .... through keyboard, flute, veena, violin, mandolin even karnatic style guitar. tell to your friends....
- From: RUBBINI (@ brf-cache11.jaring.my)
on: Wed Jun 14 09:11:25 EDT 2000
I am a classical singer.But I really don't know what to do when I'm having my flu during my performance.
- From: RUBBINI (@ brf-cache11.jaring.my)
on: Wed Jun 14 09:11:32 EDT 2000
I am a classical singer.But I really don't know what to do when I'm having my flu during my performance.
- From: RAM (@ 149.123.110.57)
on: Fri Jun 16 12:34:14 EDT 2000
Message for: Mr. Lakshman (Bellglobal?)
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RAM
- From: Rajesh (@ 195.229.179.29)
on: Mon Jun 26 07:04:00 EDT 2000
Hi All,
I don't know much about Ragas. But I am big fan of Ilayaraja. I am intersted in knowing your opinions about Ilayaraja and S.P.Balasubrahmaniam.
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Mon Jun 26 22:35:35 EDT 2000
Rajesh: check out this forum
http://tfmpage.com/forum/
- From: Amaresh (@ 192.147.58.6)
on: Wed Jun 16 18:00:06 EDT 2004
looking for some notes of Hindustani Ragas..
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