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- From: Gopal (@ htc.prt.com)
on: Wed Jul 21 14:51:42
No response yet..
Haven't had the good fortune of listening to DKJ's live concert.Would love to collect and listen a lot of DKJ.
Anybody has old conecert recordings of DKJ ( not released commercially)?
- From: Narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Wed Sep 15 09:00:44
There is a LOT to talk about DKJ. Where to start and where to end ? He was a living legend and is unique in every aspect. He had a very unique style of Keerthana Renering where he gives every bit of attention to the pronunciation of the krithi without losing the charm or sampradaya of the Raga. The style seems to be very simple but is very complex. One will realise only while trying to sing in that style. I have personal experience in this aspect. He is an expert in Dikshitar krithis and Papanasam Sivan Krithi - a very unique combination and he is one of the top perormers of Ragam Thanam Pallavi. I must say that i have had the good fortune of listening to almost all his concerts for 2 years before he passed away. He is one of very few, the Carnatic Music Field (and lots of his sishyas) has lost at the most inappropriate time.
- From: Narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Thu Sep 30 08:10:52
Did you know htat Sri DKJ hails from Kanchipuram and he used to manage a college mess. Everyday the morning tiffin would be Idly with Milakai podi.
Oneday the students started protesting and refused to have breakfast. Over 1000 idlies which were cooked were rotting.
DKJ got an idea and asked his chef to break the Idlies into small pieces. This was then fried in oil with a few lentils and Coriander. He powdered oats and mixed it with water and added pepper/salt. The idly was named "Kakinada Uppuma" and the chutney as "Masoolipatnam Chutney". This was an instant hit and everything was sold in minutes (on a permium price).
- From: Gopal (@ htc.prt.com)
on: Thu Sep 30 11:12:05
Narayanan
I'm sorry I'm re-entering late. It's interesting to hear about the "kakinada uppuma" episode.
I heard that DKJ is from a place called Damal near vellore ? His fatrher's name is Krishnaswami Iyer?
Well, may be they moved into Kanchi later.
To me , every musician is offering a different taste and essence of Music--- BUT NONE TO MATCH DKS's unparalled diction, Sruthi sutham, PACE!!
More later...
- From: Gopal (@ htc.prt.com)
on: Thu Sep 30 17:05:36
When DKJ was born , it seems his father took the baby to Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai. Sri.Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi blessed the kid by feeding honey to the baby and expressed "Intha kozhanthai nalla paaduvan!!".
This I remember was once told by Smt.DKP in an interview -- not sure of the source I heard it from..
- From: Narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Fri Oct 1 04:07:16
He is also called as Cycle Vidhwan. This is because he used to travel long distance by cycle to teach music lessons and while doing so used to practise pallavis and ragam.
I think DAMAL is a small village near Kanchipuram.
- From: vijaya venkataraman (@ beagle.hsc.missouri.edu)
on: Tue Jun 6 11:50:58
DKJ is unparalleled in bringing together raga, bhava and tala. The fact that he survived the unforgiving critics in madras despite his voice giving him trouble at the higher octaves is testimony to his vidwat. it is also commendable that he continued to sing despite his health problem. you can tell, i'm a diehard fan!
- From: Ravi Kiran (@ 202.144.29.21)
on: Wed Jun 7 13:20:45 EDT 2000
i think DKJ's special contribution to CM would be his elaboration of rare ragas as main pieces in his concerts.
examples include natabhairavi (sree valli..) or the saranga(or saranutha?) malhaar (sree mahabala..), etc.
his raga sketches for such ragas used to be so original and so rich in raaga swaroopam and not just plain scale manipulations!
- From: rageshree (@ spider-wa054.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Jun 8 18:51:05 EDT 2000
Family history reveals, however, that Jayraman was born as the sixth child to Damal Krishnaswamy Dikshithar and Rajammal. Damal is near Kanchipuram. The family never lived in Damal, but only in Kanchipuram
Source: SRUTI March 1991- DKJ Issue
- From: Nadopasaka (@ adppp33.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Jun 8 19:18:51 EDT 2000
Does DKP (DKJ's elder sister) have a family of her known ? Maybe her children also are in CM ?
- From: Lakshman (@ ppp2625.on.bellglobal.com)
on: Thu Jun 8 19:22:01 EDT 2000
Nado: DKP has a son Sivakumar who is married to Palghat Mani Iyer's daughter. Their dsughter is Nityashree who is now the family's concert artist.
- From: narayanan (@ ppp-1-202.cvx3.telinco.net)
on: Fri Jun 9 03:24:05 EDT 2000
Lakshman/Nado:
DKP has (had?) two other sons (twins) named Ramkumar & Lakshmankumar.
- From: vidya (@ 202.9.176.202)
on: Sat Jun 10 04:44:37 EDT 2000
anybody heard manasa sancharare of dkj
heard that he splits shreeramaniikucha differently
- From: Gopal (@ dialup-63.208.86.5.stamford1.level3.net)
on: Sat Jun 10 08:53:24 EDT 2000
DKP's D-in-law (Palghat Mani Iyer's daughter) Lalitha is also known vocalist.She used accompany DKP after DKJ started singing alone in concerts.
Some other favorites of mine by DKJ:
Maa Mayuram Meethil eeri vaa--(Bilahari ?)
Karpagame--(Madhyamavathi)
Pancha Linga Krithis & Nava Varna Krithis by Dikshitar
- From: Nadopasaka (@ abppp42.buffnet.net)
on: Tue Jun 13 12:17:26 EDT 2000
DKJ has an interesting way (abetted by his chorus) of presenting O in SivaSivaSivayanarada O. He also has a rousing SankariNeeve ( subbaraya sastris begada ).
- From: nandini (@ chrla020-0278.splitrock.net)
on: Tue Jun 13 13:49:20 EDT 2000
His rendering of Gangadeeshwaram, in sindhubhairavi,is wonderful..........
- From: Gopal (@ gtfw2.cabletron.com)
on: Wed Jun 14 16:33:15 EDT 2000
Also ,I like his rendering of "Hiranmayim Lakshmim"--in Sri Lalitha.
Other great ones by DKJ, I love:
Nekkurugi--Abohi
Nambi Kettavar Evar Iyya--Hidolam
- From: nandini (@ chrla020-0088.splitrock.net)
on: Thu Jun 15 00:19:14 EDT 2000
Gopal: Do you have the lyrics of Nambi kettavar?
Can you post it here?
Thanks
- From: narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Thu Jun 15 04:20:50 EDT 2000
Nandini:
raagam: HindhOLam thaaLam: aadhi 1 kaLai
pallavi:
nambik kettavar evar aiyaa-umai
naayahanaith thirumayilaiyin iRaivanai (nambik)
anupallavi:
ambuli gangai aNindha jadaadharan
anbar manam kavar sambu kabaaliyai (nambik)
charaNam:
onRumE payan illaiyenRu uNarndhapinpavar uNdenbaar
ovvoru manidhanum oru_naaL i_n_nilai eidhuadhuRudhi idhai maRandhaar
anRu seyalazindhala marupozudhu sivan peyar naavil vaaraadhE
aadhalinaal manamE inRE sila naamam sollippazahu anbudan (nambik)
- From: narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Thu Jun 15 04:23:38 EDT 2000
Does anybody have audio of DKJ's Kalyana Rama - Hamsanadham. Cracking piece...
- From: nandini (@ chrla020-0004.splitrock.net)
on: Thu Jun 15 11:49:50 EDT 2000
Thanks narayanan.....Another favor, do you have a recording of this song by any one of the DKP fmly?
- From: gopal (@ dialup-63.208.81.136.stamford1.level3.net)
on: Fri Jun 16 14:59:38 EDT 2000
Nandini,
If u need Nambik kettavar evrayyah! --I have DKJ's recording.Let me know.
- From: Siva (@ 202.241.231.2)
on: Thu Jun 22 07:04:25 EDT 2000
His rendering of Mahadeva Siva Sambo is excellent
- From: RAM (@ 149.123.110.57)
on: Thu Jun 22 08:28:50 EDT 2000
To Narayanan
I have :Kalyana Rama" in Hamsanadham (Uttukkadu's krithi) by Hydrabad Brothers. It is very good.
If you want , please let me know.
RAM
- From: narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Thu Jun 22 08:37:02 EDT 2000
Ram:
I have this one. DKJ's rendition is very different and he sings it in the correct pace.
Thanks anyway for asking.
Kshitija Ramanam, Soundararajam, Sri Dhum Durge, Somasundareswaram and Ekamresa Nayike are exclusive "DKJ" Dikshitar krithis.
I havent heard even DKP sing them.
- From: Siva (@ 202.9.65.75)
on: Wed Jun 28 07:48:40 EDT 2000
Narayanan
What is the raga of Kshitija Ramanam. I have not heard this.
- From: PPN (@ padma.math.mun.ca)
on: Wed Jun 28 08:19:46 EDT 2000
Dikshitar's Kshitija Tamanam in Devagandhari, Adi
- From: nandini (@ chrla020-0276.splitrock.net)
on: Wed Jun 28 13:59:17 EDT 2000
Who's krithi is this kshitija ramanam?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ abppp42.buffnet.net)
on: Wed Jun 28 23:22:54 EDT 2000
Narayanan, Can you comment on whether DKJ may have picked up the krities you mention from some other source than DKP or if DKP simply did not perform them in public ? (is there a DKP rendition of Shriranjani or the other ragas ) EkambresaNayike is of course quite widespread, as is Shnmkpriya.
- From: narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Thu Jun 29 04:34:22 EDT 2000
Nado:
I have (had) 3 concerts of DKP where she sings Sari Evvare - Sri Ranjani. I have heard DKP sing Sri Dumdurge - Sriranjani.
DKJ, apart from DKP learned some krithis from TL Venkatrama Iyer, Papanasam Sivan, Tanjore Sankara Iyer and a few others.
It seems that DKJ and DKP have an agreement not to sing kithis popularised by the other one.
DKP never sings krithis like Soundararajam - B Saranga, Chanka CHakra - P Chandrika , Sri Subramanyo - Todi, Gunijanathi - Gurjari... and i have not seen DKJ sing krithis like Bhakthuni - Begada, Sallare - Ahiri, and Sri Nadadi - Mayamalavagowlai, krithis popularised by DKP.
- From: narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Thu Jun 29 04:36:07 EDT 2000
Nandini/Siva:
Kshitija Ramanam - Devagandharam - Adi is a Dikshitar krithi. DKJ is the only person who used to sing this krithi. He used to sing this quite often in concerts during the 1970s.
- From: vijaya venkataraman (@ umhc254.umh.edu)
on: Sun Dec 24 13:52:19 EST 2000
I would love a copy of DKJ singing Kshitija Ramanam
could you tell me where I might find one or please send me a copy?
thanks
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