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Carnatic music and its use in medicine
Carnatic music and its use in medicine
Topic started by Yogini Ratnasabapathy on Fri Nov 19 23:00:28 .
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Is there any evidence that carnatic music has been used in therapy in the past or at the present time in medicne or in ayurveda.
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- From: thiyagarajan (@ 164.164.128.13)
on: Mon Dec 13 05:27:41
In mysore there is one Swamyji called Sri GANAPATHY SACHIDHANANTHA who gives treatment to patients by singing different ragas.Like anantha bhairavi for BP,etc.
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Mon Dec 13 06:48:43
Sri Balamuralikrishna has done some research in this subject and has found out that "Saveri" is very good medicine for Headache.
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Tue Dec 21 05:56:19
HMV has released some albums in this subject...
http://www.chennaionline.com/entertainment/events/hmv01.asp
- From: Prasad (@ hoproxy2.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Fri Feb 11 01:00:38 EST 2000
Kunnakkudi Vaidyanathan has cured his father from a comatose stage when he was young by playing Bhairavi.
Ananda Bhairavi is suposed to bring down blood pressure levels
Thiagaraja is said to have brought a dead man back to life by singing Na jeeva dhara in Bilahari
I have always slept while listening to Sankharabharanam lying down in bed.This may look like a coincidence but this has not happened to me with any other raga(be it thodi,Bhairavi,kalyani or anything)
any more inputs?
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Fri Feb 11 04:30:37 EST 2000
When D K Pattammal's Mother-In-Law was ailing with Heart Disease (in Death Bed), DKP was practising "Sri Vaidhyanatham" of MD in atana, that she learned a few days back, her Mother-In-Law miraculously survived and recovered fully.
DKP used to tell us this incident when she talks about Dikshitar.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp81.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Feb 17 03:03:09 EST 2000
It is interesting that all examples here pertain to the beneficial effect ON the 'listener'.
Wonder if there is a survey of longevity etc. of the practitioners and some relation to this effect ? Of course discipline required in shastriya sangeet can keep you honest, so this could be understandable.
Generally great composers/musicians had a life span of 60 years which is very high for those centuries.
Exceptions are Swati tirual, GNB, MMI.
Comments
- From: Nadopasaka (@ abppp3.buffnet.net)
on: Tue Feb 29 15:06:05 EST 2000
There is a story related by Sambamurty how Poochi S.I who had fractured his leg, composed a kriti while in bed with a cast and used words including 'Gajendra moksha' and then recovered.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ abppp43.buffnet.net)
on: Fri Mar 3 21:37:45 EST 2000
It is well known now that after moderate exertion, the human brain stimulates the production of 'endorphins' and other compounds that might be pain-killers or narcotics.
I wonder if any such physiological evidence has ever been obtained from some of our musicians. Would have to wire them up suitably ? If I remember right this guy JC Bose hooked up some plants long ago. Anyway, some kind of MRI during a recital may show some interesting features.
any thoughts ?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp49.buffnet.net)
on: Fri Mar 10 21:15:19 EST 2000
Has use of 'Morsing' declned ? Is it possibly due to mouth cancer scare ? Betel chewing may have as much cancer potential.
- From: Lakshman (@ hse-kitchener-ppp78690.sympatico.ca)
on: Sat Mar 11 13:13:46 EST 2000
Nadopasaka:
I don't think Morsing accompaniment is on the decline because of cancer scare. It is more likely because of its limited scope in producing sound variations. As well the old type Kucheri format, where the main artist was surrounded by the violin, mridangam, kanjira,ghatam, morsing and konnakkol support, is passe. Even ghatam accompaniment is becoming rare these days.
- From: isai rasigai (@ dialup-63.210.134.103.boston1.level3.net)
on: Sat Mar 11 13:33:50 EST 2000
I would also attribute this to the decline in number of ghatam and morsing vidhwans. i don't think too many people want to take these up as a profession any more.
- From: Isai Rasigai (@ dialup-63.210.134.103.boston1.level3.net)
on: Sat Mar 11 14:06:35 EST 2000
oops - ignore my previous posting - I did not read Nado's post before Lakshman's :)
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aippp30.buffnet.net)
on: Tue Mar 14 19:07:53 EST 2000
I read that the Western dairy industry uses some forms of music (maybe classical ) in the cow stalls to increase milk production. Is there any similar use of piped music, maybe even CM in Indian dairies and hospitals during major operations and child-birth ?
- From: nick haynes (@ host.sumitomomarine.co.uk)
on: Thu Mar 16 08:26:34 EST 2000
Morsing decline:
Speaking as a would be morsing player...
I think the morsing's place as '4th percussion instrument' has a lot to do with this. People want to be in lead position playing mridangam, or to have the glamour of playing ghatam. Kanjira and morsing suffer accordingly. At the same time audience actually have some fascination with morsing because it is the only one where eyes tell you little about how it is played and I amoften asked' 'how do you get that sound?'.
As to lesser capabilities, I think maybe there's nothing you could do with konokol that you could not do on morsing. I also think it has great scope for individual interpretation and expression. But then I'm biased!
...Konokol; lets have someone take up the question as to why this also seems to be a dying art?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp31.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Mar 16 10:52:14 EST 2000
Nick Thanks.
You may be best suited to comment on 'Carpal Tunnel Syndrome' affecting percussionists. Violinists etc. also please comment. Thanks
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp7.buffnet.net)
on: Tue Mar 21 03:18:37 EST 2000
Professional CM vocalists often have careers lasting 40-50 years. Is there any indication of 'throat cancer' due to this enormous use of the vocal chords ? Of course this fear is only one of the reasons I did not choose this career :-)
- From: IR (@ dialup-63.210.141.207.boston1.level3.net)
on: Tue Mar 21 06:38:58 EST 2000
::)) Nado - that says it all ::))
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Tue Mar 21 08:32:04 EST 2000
Nado/IR:
How about cancer in ears ... of course the rasika's ears ::))
- From: IR (@ dialup-63.210.158.168.boston1.level3.net)
on: Tue Mar 21 09:13:06 EST 2000
::)) we should all be dead by now Narayanan ::))
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp95.buffnet.net)
on: Sat Mar 25 12:32:29 EST 2000
Narayanan wrote >>> Sri Balamuralikrishna has done some research in this subject and has found out that "Saveri" is very good medicine for Headache <<<.
Now this is the epitome of the zero-sum game ! First get a headache from the rendition, then cure it with the magical power of Saveri !
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