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Food for thought: communism v/s capitalism
Food for thought: communism v/s capitalism
Topic started by rajasaranam (@ dialpool-210-214-229-90.maa.sify.net) on Tue Sep 21 16:03:15 EDT 2004.
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Foods IMO have their own political ideology behind it.capitalism or the globalization which is on the rise, in the 21st century introduces new kind of food to different cultures. the so called junk food is being forced upon us in the name of Free market.amidst these junk food campaing we are slowly losing our own cultural foods. the war as i see is something like oothapam v/s Pizza, idly v/s doughnuts, biriyani v/s fried rice etc., The impact of capitalism/Globalization is deep rooted which bores below unimaginable depths. It is stealing all our cultural heritage frm music[ replacing indigenous music with Pop music, to language[replacing all languags by one global language english] to food [patenting our rice etc.,]. Do we have to allow this to grow or resort to Communism which brings in new things while giving allowing the growth of our own cultural heritage and promises to give us a golden future. in this context i wud like to dequote Marx 'We hav got nothing to lose other than our chains' as ' we hav got everything to lose more than our chains'.
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- From: k (@ surfwc249.sybase.com)
on: Tue Sep 21 18:39:24 EDT 2004
Communism has been proven to be an unsuccessful model for running a economy. Examples are USSR and even China. Concepts of communism have prevailed in social aspects of a community (eg. joint-family) but even these models (lets call it voluntary communism) have failed, judging by the less number of joint families.
- From: k (@ surfwc249.sybase.com)
on: Tue Sep 21 18:39:42 EDT 2004
Communism runs counter to the aspirations of a human being. He/she who is better at certain skills needs to be rewarded by the value of those skills.
That said, I do agree about the negative aspects of globalization. It is very difficult to resist globalization. Communication and trade barriers are falling and continue to fall. But even in this environment, we can preserve our language. We can preserve our food and clothing habits. A good example is Japan - everything in Japan is done in Japanese. Inspite of McDonalds, their food practices are still the same. Their clothing might have changed, but atleast once a year, they dust out their kimono.
So communism is not a solution to the negative effects of capitalism. There are other ways to address the negatives of capitalism.
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Wed Sep 22 08:41:01 EDT 2004
I support K here..
But Rajasaram, is communism apposed to Hindutva...(Might not be a BJP concept but a concept of Hindu way of Living)?
- From: app_engine (@ ncache1.ford.com)
on: Wed Sep 22 13:41:50 EDT 2004
"There are other ways to address the negatives of capitalism"
Can you specify / elaborate on some those `other ways',k?
- From: k (@ surfwc249.sybase.com)
on: Wed Sep 22 14:59:58 EDT 2004
App_engine, shunning capitalism just for the ill-effects of the consumerism it encourages, is like 'throwing the baby away with the bath water'.
- From: k (@ surfwc249.sybase.com)
on: Wed Sep 22 15:00:22 EDT 2004
TV programmers like swapthswarangal, broadcast patti manrams etc are examples on how we can use media to popularise our music,language. More and more people should be aware of the rich heritage (language, culture) of our land and try to keep it alive. How many of us have named our kids with a tamil name ? So, the desire should come from each and every individual. This is much more easy than trying to change/rewrite the whole economic system (and that too when it may not work well with the rest of the world).
rajasaranam, is an architect. Well, he could try to popularize indian architecture. Or even add touches of it to a modern architecture. People who are into medicine, should probably research our system of medicine, say for example, why do we categorize food as ushna, cold, pitha, vayu etc.
- From: k (@ surfwc249.sybase.com)
on: Wed Sep 22 15:00:35 EDT 2004
There are lots of mathematical formula embedded in our literature, any engineer, should just for fun try to see how accurate/approximate they are. We need to have a pride in our language/culture. Without pride/ego we will be lost in the future world.
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Thu Sep 23 06:50:49 EDT 2004
HEy,
I am planning to name my child in tamil.
Infact I am campaigning for this for some time in my family.
I don't know how far I will be successful...We find mostly sanskrit language in our family.
Let me see...
As K says...we need to be proud of our history and some times go overboard praising it...what's wrong in that....After all the oldest culture should have the prime place in the world history.
- From: k (@ surfwc249.sybase.com)
on: Thu Sep 23 12:58:16 EDT 2004
zz,
Congrats :) There is nothing wrong in using Sanskrit. But the reason should not that the tamil name sounds 'bad' or 'inferior'. In our family, many people are named with shiva in context (sivanEsan, sivakAlai etc). Your family can select a good name in sanskrit (not the run of the mill three syllable ending in a ones). You can name the baby with a tamil equivalent. Many of my friends who have sanskrit names, have adopted tamil names as 'punai' peyars.
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Fri Sep 24 04:38:27 EDT 2004
k:
Ya..I too am thinking on that line...
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