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vitu kathaikaL
vitu kathaikaL
Topic suggested by Chandra on Tue Mar 2 19:00:40 .
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vitu kathai has been a well-recognized form of
puzzle literature for thousands of years in Tamil.
tholkAppiyam refers to it as "pici" (confer other wods such as 'pithir' and 'puthir' for puzzle or conundrum).
Tamils have a unique tradition with this where the vitu kathai has certain prosody associated with it such as ethugai and monai.
This form of literature, as do every component of
the muththamizh, has its roots in folk tradition.
One of the most interesting forms of the vitu kathai usually has two parts where each part is a question in itself
and the answer must be a phrase that serves as teh answer to both the questions.
There are other types of vitukathai also which are of interest too here.
I invite forum members to post any vitu kathais they know.
I start this thread off by posting a vitukathai courtesy of a friend from the kolli malaich chAral who is well versed in this which he learnt from his father:
kIrai vaLarppathu ethaRkAka? - kIzhOr
mElOraich chuRRuvathu ethaRkAka?
I will post the answer after giving others a
chance to solve this riddle.
Chandra
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Responses:
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- From: vanchi (@ 203.197.132.43)
on: Fri May 7 09:12:28
I have received from one JeevaMohan of Madras a list of stand-alone clues. It has to be fit into a grid and made into a crossword puzzle.
Nevertheless I could not resist the temptation of sharing a good one immediately. here is it:
antha vaasanai arai manithanukkuriyathu (5)
- From: Mani Manivannan (@ pc-242-49.corp.3com.com)
on: Fri May 7 15:57:28
Asokan and Vanchi,
I hope you understand you have struck a goldmine with the Tamil puzzle series. It becomes quite addictive and draws repeat visits from a loyal group of customers.
I am sure you would take other good ideas from any good English Sunday Edition newsmagazine. You already have receipes; you SHOULD add good comics in Tamil (not lame translations, but originals, based on Tamil culture and history), animated political cartoons, other puzzles based on classical/modern poetry, and interactive, network puzzles. This will draw a high IQ/high income audience to your site that advertisers love to reach.
But you also need numbers for generic commerce and viability and unfortunately, you do need kisu kisu. Of course, it is quite cheap to generate a kisu kisu page with appropriate pictures that will generate traffic too. It is (usually) a difference audience.
I don't know if KalaimagaL ever had a kisu kisu page. However, I am glad that a Webzine like ArAmthiNai exists. And I am even more thrilled that it uses (mostly) standard Tamil rather than Tinglish.
Kudos to all of your staff and particularly to Vanchi (who I assume is the author of the crossword puzzles, though it is not obvious from the web site).
maNivaNNan
- From: L.Ravichandran (@ 202.54.69.130)
on: Sat May 8 03:47:36
Mr.chandra
I am L.Ravichandran one of the founders, along with asokan and krishnan, of Chennai Interactive Business Services (p)Ltd. Though we started in Oct.'97 we could not host tamil pages (an idea we had right in the beginning)till Dec.'98.The credit for making aaramthinai so good should go first and foremost to appanaswamy our editor;its image and excellence has been enhanced by contributions and ideas from vanchi; vanchi, well is a stupendous guy and a good friend.
We are immensely happy that our effort is being recognised so well and overawed by the encomiums from your forum.thanks for all the encouragement and good wishes. I will be a regular visitor to the forum.Let us xchange ideas and thoughts.
- From: subbi (@ alpxy3.att.com)
on: Wed Jun 9 17:00:57
Aaalakulli Thondi aethelae oru muttai(egg)
ittu anaanthupaarthal 90 muttaikal..athuenne..
???
- From: Chandra (@ user-37ka1rp.dialup.mindspring.com)
on: Wed Jun 9 22:25:48
subbi,
???
(Too much mAlaimurasu or thinaththandhi ???!!!)
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ usr12-dialup81.mix1.irving.cw.net)
on: Thu Jun 10 01:04:03
mmmmm.... is it 'nungu maram' ?
- From: kannazhagan (@ 203.197.131.13)
on: Thu Jun 10 01:48:38
Never heard of Nungu maram before. Perhaps thaththuvavathi has panai maram in mind.
Is nungu maram a vattaara vazhakku? For me this sounds as strange as calling thennai maram as thEngaay maram
- From: SUBBI (@ athm-209-219-xxx-66.home.net)
on: Thu Jun 10 12:10:31
ANNAN , KANNAZHAGANNUKU VAZHTHUKAL.. SERIYAANA
PATHIL..
ENNAYA THATHUVAVATHI,, TAMILAI KOLAIPONNURERE..
NUNGU MARAM ENDRU ONDRU AKARATHILAE KIDAIATHAPPA..
MAY BE IN MADRAS TAMIL...
SERI, ENNORE VIDUKATHAI..
MANNUKULLLE MAAYANDI , OORIKA OORIKA (PEELING OFF) THOLAANDI.. ATHU ENNE..
- From: pae (@ global22.citicorp.com)
on: Thu Jun 10 12:23:13
VENGAYAM
- From: bb (@ inehou-pxy06.compaq.com)
on: Thu Jun 10 12:49:58
..of periyaar?:-))
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ 207.247.192.254)
on: Thu Jun 10 15:57:40
mmmm..... is it 'veLLai poondu' ???!!!!
- From: Thalaiyalankaanathu Peruvendra Cholan (@ kcpxy4.att.com)
on: Fri Jun 11 13:47:32
Venkayam endru seriyaana pathil allitha annan
pae vazhka...
o.k ennondru..
Thai sappaani(Gopalakrishnan - 16 vaythineelae)
makaa srippaani.. athuenne..
makkale ...sirappa vara viduthi vazhthukal anaivarukkum...
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ 207.247.192.253)
on: Fri Jun 11 15:38:31
mmmmmm..... is it thirunelveli alvaa ?!!
kuRippu : "peru"vendra chozharE ! thaangaL migavum guNdO ? 'ceru'vai allavaa vendreer ena ninaithEn :-)
ippadikku,
akaraadhi ariyaa thamizh thathuvam.
(naan oru akaraadhi allan ! 'ceRu' vendravan !! :-))
- From: Vanchinathan (@ 203.197.139.53)
on: Tue Aug 24 01:35:55
Friends,
Here is a bilingual (English & Thamizh) puzzle I made a few months back and weblished in chennaionline's english e-zine. Now that the e-zine is better organized I could find the link to that forgotten article:
http://www.chennaichips.com/highbrow/guru1.asp
Hope you will get some fun out of it.
Another article there by Pasupathy is a delightful wordplay. Don't miss it. Here is the URL:
http://www.chennaichips.com/highbrow/guru.asp
- From: Chandra (@ dragonfirex1.delta-air.com)
on: Tue Aug 24 15:09:26
Wonderful!
So hilarious!
ÀÍÀ¾¢ ÍÀ
- From: Chandra (@ dragonfirex1.delta-air.com)
on: Tue Aug 24 15:10:26
ÀÍÀ¾¢ ÍÀ
- From: Pas (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu)
on: Wed Aug 25 11:39:40
Chanda,
Thanks..
Vanchi,
Why not give the nice Tamil sollaattam columns inks you wrote as a followup to these? ( I looked at Chennai Chips...seems much better organized now... the articles in Chips can also refer to links to your particular sollaattam columns in ARaamthiNai related to above)
- From: vanchi (@ 203.197.139.24)
on: Fri Oct 1 06:28:53
friends,
The puzzle about trucks carrying apples that I posed in
http://www.forumhub.com/expr/26179.12.29.45.html
has been reformulated again and I have weblished it in the e-zine aaRaamthiNai's sollattam column.
http://www.aaraamthinai.com/sollattam/sollattam.asp
Plan to do it regularly---the major differences being it would be in Thamizh and it would be verbose as opposed to the versions in English we are used to. Suggestions/contributions are welcome
- From: bb (@ ts001d25.cha-il.concentric.net)
on: Sat Oct 2 04:37:34
good work, vanchi!
- From: vanchi (@ dail.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Mon Oct 4 03:57:47
"sollattam"
Balaji: nice to know you liked it. Now (on 3rd oct) next episode of sollattam has a new puzzle.
there is no announcement about it in the front page now.
Unfortunately, the solution for previous week's could not be included. (because of gandhi jayanthi holiday, the chennaionline staff had to work extra to prepare pages in advance, and have deferred it now)
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Tue Oct 5 04:35:13
sila vitukathaigal:
1. aatrai kalakkum akkarai sErum aanaal thanneeril kalakkaathu, athu enna?
2. mEjai meethu vaithu vettuvaargal aanaal athu uyir pogaathu, athu enna?
3. poo irukkum sediyalla thalai irukkum adalalla, athu enna?
4. 'suL'-enbaan aNNan 'jil'-enbaan thambhi, yaar?
nandri: thina thanthi
- From: Ramji (@ 205.177.170.119)
on: Tue Oct 5 06:21:50
2. cheetu kattu.
- From: Ramji (@ 205.177.170.119)
on: Tue Oct 5 06:25:19
3. kaasu
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Wed Oct 6 01:06:29
Both correct.
Answers:
1. kural
4. sooriyan, chanthiran
- From: rags aka Aruna (@ ariel.sun.com)
on: Wed Oct 6 13:21:30
Hi All ,Naanthan Rags endra Aruna.
Enakku kavithai nadai avvalavaga kidayathu.
Irundhalum ezhuthithan parpome endra oru muyarchi.
Puthir kavithai
----------------
Kobathil Ennai Nee Sutteripathuthan KODAI KALAMO
Santhosha Mihuthiyil Ennai Nee Varuduvathuthan VASANTHA KALAMO
Kavalayil Ennai Nee nanaipathuthan KAAR KALAMO
Virakthiyil Imai Uthirthu Ennai nee Verumai paduthuvathuthan ILAI UTHIR KALAMO
KANNE KANMANIYE, Unnai Thangi irukum MUGAM NAAN ketkiren Bathil Kooradi !!!!!!!
- From: valaivaasi (@ isdn1.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Dec 3 08:21:05
I learnt of this site from aaRaamthiNai's crossword puzzle this week. But I am unable to crack those puzzles.
Perhaps I am too much used to straight thinking that cross and lateral thinking ability are lost by working with 'nErasai" and 'cir"
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- From: anotherbirdofthesamefeather (@ pcpas.comm.utoronto.ca)
on: Fri Dec 3 11:14:04
valaivasi,
:-))
- From: Chandra (@ fw-atlanta.atlanta.usweb.com)
on: Fri Dec 3 13:31:53
:-))
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«Ð ±ýÉ "¸Ä¢ ¢ھ¢Â¢ø ÒÕÅõ ŨÇóÐ"...?
- From: valaivasi (@ isdn1.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Dec 3 23:57:54
thaLai thattal: the last cIr of 3rd adi should be changed to "avizkkinRa"
Chandra:
"¸Ä¢ ¢ھ¢Â¢ø ÒÕÅõ ŨÇóÐ"...?
= (anagram of ) Ä + ÒÕÅõ
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Å̧ЧºÃ'ÒÄ¢ ÅÕõ'.
- From: Vanchi (@ isdn1.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Jan 28 04:34:52
One Announcement
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- From: Vanchi (@ isdn1.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Jan 28 04:35:28
One Announcement
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- From: Vanchi (@ isdn1.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Jan 28 04:51:19 EST 2000
AiyayyO!
Mistake again;
Read it as
'nuzaiyaa"
instead of "nuzaiya'
- From: Mahrouf Ali (@ )
on: Tue May 30 13:41:21
Ellorukkum Vanakkam!
Nan erupathu Dubaile!
Ennakku Thirumanam Ana Puthithu, en manaivikku Kaditham(letter) varainthen Eppadi....
ARABIYA THENDRAL
Munpellam Thalaivikku Thuthu solla
Thentral,Paravai(Bird),Mekam(cloud) ellam uthavina!! Nannum en Thalaivikku(En Manavii)Thuthu anupenen AAnal Evai Maruthuvittana
Pinputhan Karanam Purinthathu
Evaithan Arabia THENTRAL,PARAVAI,MEKAM aache
Tamil Theriyathu Enndru
Eppadi errkku, Thaanga mudiyalaya
Ennum Varum
- From: JayBee (@ sp-69-188.tm.net.my)
on: Wed May 31 03:58:00 EDT 2000
Araabiya aRuvai ippadiththaan irukkumO?:-)
Edhaachchum Aayiraththu Oru Araabiya iravugaL (walbulailaa walailaah) maadhiri Araabiya vidukadhaigal pOdungga.
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