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- From: ¦ƒ (@ inehou-pxy03.compaq.com)
on: Fri Jan 19 12:41:55
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2. «øÄÐ, ¾ü¸¡Äò ¾¸ôÀýÁ¡÷¸û ´Õ §Å¨Ç Òò¾¢ ¦¸ðÎô §À¡ö «ôÀÊ ¿¼óÐ ¦¸¡ñ¼¡Öõ «¨¾¦ÂøÄ¡õ ±Ø¾ì ܼ¡Ð?
3. «øÄÐ, ¾ü¸¡Äò ¾¸ôÀýÁ¡÷¸Ç¢ý Ţú ±ñ½ò¨¾ ôÀÊ Å¢ÃºÁ¡¸ò(¦º¡øÖõ Ó¨È) ¾¡ý ±Ø¾ ÓÊÔõ, ±Ø¾ §ÅñÎõ. ¿Ç¢Éõ ±ýÚ ¦º¡øŦ¾øÄ¡õ «Àò¾õ, ¦º¡ø Å¢¨Ç¡ðÎ?
- From: sukrutha (@ cc785269-c.avnl1.nj.home.com)
on: Fri Jan 19 13:15:13
f/t,
enathu aatchEbaNaigaL
1.'thaRkaala thanthaiyarin virasangaL' enRu neengaL, thaRkaalaththiRkE ovvum Or vidayam pOlum, allathu thaRkaala aaNgaLidamE intha eenaththanam miguthiyaaga uLLathu enbathu poolum, ezhuthuvathu. 'thaRkaala aaNgaL' avvaLavu thaRikettu, neRikettu pOnavar enRu naan ERpathaRku illai.
2. naanum sujaathaavin antha kathaiyai padiththavaL alla. kathaiyil antha thanthai 'oru maadhiriyaana aaL'aaga, 'ciththam caRRE cuvaatheenam illatha manithar'aaga ciththaRikka pattirunthaal, sujaathaavin coRkaLai ERRukkoLgiREn. (ithai virasamaaga ezhithinaal enna, naLinamaaga ezhuthinaalthaan enna.) athuvallEl, ithu pOl sujaathaa ezhuthuvathu, en siRiya saraasari mooLaikku ettiyavarai, oru paathaga ceyal. Vaasan avargaL intha kathaiyai muzhuvathumaaga ivvidam veLiyittaal nallathu.
P.S. F12 vElai seyyavillai. aagavE thamizh ezhuththukkaLai payanpaduththa iyalavillai. mannikkavum.
- From: sukrutha (@ cc785269-c.avnl1.nj.home.com)
on: Fri Jan 19 13:42:20
Continuing on the above post,
antha kathaiyil, antha thanthai 'manavyaathi Ethum aRRavar, oru kaNam than nilai thavaRivittaar, maRRapadi yokkiyar', enRE vaiththuk koLvOm. aduththathaaga, 'antha manithar thannaiyE nonthukkondaar' enRu sujaathaa ezhuthiyiruppaarEyaanaal, athaiyum ERRu koLvEn. appadi ezhuthiyuLLaaraa ?
- From: Jay (@ inehou-pxy02.compaq.com)
on: Fri Jan 19 14:49:28
Sukrutha,
I'm not able to read your posting fully. I'll try to encode, read and get back to you later. But I guess you are playing with words again :-)
- From: Sugrutha (@ cc785269-c.avnl1.nj.home.com)
on: Fri Jan 19 17:19:39
Jai,
No word-play.
Statistically speaking, men are no more or no less perverted than ever before. I took umberage at your statement which specifically says 'perversion in the fathers of today'.
Now to the esteemed Sujata. This man, very lightly makes a comment about a father's disgusting observation of his daughter. If the father's character is not already portrayed as a mentally-deranged person or an absolutely base evil person, the charcter ought not have such a thought, or in the least feel extremely apologetic the next instance.
Anyway, I am not worried that he has influenced our youth in any way - good or bad, fortunately for them.
He did not lead them to science and technology or computers. His were but introductions - sometimes very tedious and boring - to these subjects. I wonder that they were motivating enough for anyone to begin a serious relationship with these subjects.
Realistic writing ? I recall that he was the first to use the 'tha' and 'ya' words in written Tamil. Give him a big hand.
He said an interesting story now and then, but it is a big joke that he tries to write about 'naaladiyar' and 'prabandhams'.
His attitude towards women is full of perverted arrogance. Woman to him is such a commodity that there is nothing amiss even when her own father gives her a look over.
- From: Vassan (@ sdn-ar-001nmalbup250.dialsprint.net)
on: Fri Jan 19 19:51:48
Sugrutha's Opinion #1 in Tscii Tamil
From: sukrutha (@ cc785269-c.avnl1.nj.home.com) on: Fri Jan 19 13:15:13
±ÉÐ ¬ð§ºÀ¨½¸û
1.'¾ü¸¡Ä ¾ó¨¾Â¡¢ý Ţúí¸û' ±ýÚ ¿£í¸û ¾ü¸¡Äò¾¢ü§¸ ´ù×õ µ÷ Å¢¼Âõ §À¡Öõ, «øÄÐ ¾ü¸¡Ä ¬ñ¸Ç¢¼§Á ó¾ ®Éò¾Éõ Á¢Ì¾¢Â¡¸ ¯ûÇÐ ±ýÀÐ §À¡Öõ, ±ØÐÅÐ. '¾ü¸¡Ä ¬ñ¸û' «ùÅÇ× ¾È¢¦¸ðÎ, ¦¿È¢¦¸ðÎ §À¡ÉÅ÷ ±ýÚ ¿¡ý ²üÀ¾üÌ ø¨Ä.
2. ¬É¡Ûõ ̓¡¾¡Å¢ý «ó¾ ¸¨¾¨Â ÀÊò¾Åû «øÄ. ¸¨¾Â¢ø «ó¾ ¾ó¨¾ '´Õ Á¡¾¢¡¢Â¡É ¬û'¬¸, º¢ò¾õ c«ü§È ÍÅ¡¾£Éõ øÄ¡¾ ÁÉ¢¾÷'¬¸ º¢ò¾Ã¢ì¸ ÀðÊÕó¾¡ø, ̓¡¾¡Å¢ý ¦º¡ü¸¨Ç ²üÚ즸¡û¸¢§Èý. (¨¾ ŢúÁ¡¸ ±Ø¾¢É¡ø ±ýÉ, ¿Ç¢ÉÁ¡¸ ±Ø¾¢É¡ø¾¡ý ±ýÉ.) «ÐÅø§Äø, Ð §À¡ø ̓¡¾¡ ±ØÐÅÐ, ±ý º¢È¢Â ºÃ¡º¡¢ ã¨ÇìÌ ±ðÊÂŨÃ, ´Õ À¡¾¸ ¦ºÂø. Å¡ºý ó¾ ¸¨¾¨Â ÓØÅÐÁ¡¸ ùÅ¢¼õ ¦ÅǢ¢ð¼¡ø ¿øÄÐ.
P.S. F12 §Å¨Ä ¦ºöÂÅ¢ø¨Ä. ¬¸§Å ¾Á¢ú ±ØòÐì¸¨Ç ÀÂýÀÎò¾ ÂÄÅ¢ø¨Ä. ÁýÉ¢ì¸×õ.
- From: V (@ sdn-ar-001nmalbup250.dialsprint.net)
on: Fri Jan 19 19:53:08
#2
From: sukrutha (@ cc785269-c.avnl1.nj.home.com) on: Fri Jan 19 13:42:20
Continuing on the above post,
«ó¾ ¸¨¾Â¢ø, «ó¾ ¾ó¨¾ 'ÁÉŢ¡¾¢ ²Ðõ «üÈÅ÷, ´Õ ¸½õ ¾ýÉ¢¨Ä ¾ÅȢŢð¼¡÷, ÁüÈÀÊ §Â¡ì¸¢Â÷', ±ý§È ¨ÅòÐì ¦¸¡û§Å¡õ. «Îò¾¾¡¸, '«ó¾ ÁÉ¢¾÷ ¾ý¨É§Â ¦¿¡óÐ즸¡ý¼¡÷' ±ýÚ Íƒ¡¾¡ ±Ø¾¢Â¢ÕôÀ¡§Ã¡ɡø, «¨¾Ôõ ²üÚ ¦¸¡û§Åý. «ôÀÊ ±Ø¾¢Ôûǡá ?
- From: Vassan (@ sdn-ar-001nmalbup250.dialsprint.net)
on: Fri Jan 19 19:59:59
Sukrutha
«ì¸¨¾ Å¢¸¼É¢ø ÅóÐ ¦¸¡ñÊÕó¾ (ìÌõ) ´Õ ¦¾¡¼÷¸¨¾.ºÁ£Àò¾¢Â Å¢¸¼ý¸¨Ç ÀÊì¸ §¿Õõ §À¡Ð
«ì¸¨¾ ýÛõ ÅóÐ ¦¸¡ñÊÕó¾¡ø,«¾ý ¾ü§À¡¨¾Â
§À¡ìÌ ±ýɦÅýÀ¨¾ ÍÕ츢 ±Ø¾ ÓÂø¸¢§Èý.
- From: karthi (@ 1cust45.tnt1.providence.ri.da.uu.net)
on: Sun Jan 21 01:56:30
Hallo Sukrutha! Why attach motives to one's writing? Sujatha wouldn't be where he's now if he writes to your expectations!
- From: ¦ƒ (@ inehou-pxy05.compaq.com)
on: Mon Jan 22 10:30:23
ÍìÕ¾¡,
¾ü¸¡Äò ¾ó¨¾Â÷ Ţú ±ñ½õ( ¸¨¾Â¢ø ÅÕ¸¢È Á¡¾¢Ã¢ ) Á¢Ìó¾Å÷¸û ±ýÚ ¿¡ý ¦º¡øÄÅ¢ø¨Ä. ¬¸§Å «Ð ÌÈ¢òÐ ¿£í¸û ÁÉ ÅÕò¾õ ¦¸¡ûÇ §Åñ¼¡õ ±ýÚ §¸ðÎì ¦¸¡û¸¢§Èý. ÒûÇ¢ Å¢ÅÃõ ±Îò¾¡ø «Ð §À¡ýÈ §Á¡ºÁ¡Éò ¾ó¨¾Â÷ Á¢¸î º¢Ä§Ã Õì¸ì ÜÎõ, «øÄÐ øÄ¡ÁÖõ Õì¸Ä¡õ. ¬É¡ø ¿ÁÐ §¸ûÅ¢, ¸¨¾Â¢ø ÅÕõ ¾ó¨¾ «ó¾ ´Õ º¢Äâø ´ÕÅá ±ýÀ§¾. ±É§Å ¿¡ý ¦º¡øÄ Å¢ÕõÀ¢ÂÐ: «Å÷ «ó¾ Å÷½¨É¨Âò ¾Å¢÷ò¾¢Õì¸ §ÅñÎõ «øÄÐ ¿Ç¢ÉÁ¡¸î ¦º¡øĢ¢Õì¸Ä¡õ - ¸¨¾ôÀÊ «ó¾ò ¾ó¨¾ «ùÅÇ× §Á¡ºÁ¡ÉÅḠÕó¾¡ø, ¸¨¾ìÌ «Ð «ùÅÇ× Ó츢ÂÁ¡¸ Õó¾¡ø. ¾¢ø ¿¡ý À¢üÀ̾¢¨Âî §º÷òÐ ±Ø¾ Å¢ø¨Ä ±ýÈ¡Öõ «¨¾ Áɾ¢ø ¦¸¡ñ§¼ ±Ø¾¢§Éý; «ôÀʧ ÁüÈÅÕõ ¦À¡Õû ¦¸¡ûÅ÷ ±ýÚ ±¾¢÷À¡÷ò§¾ý.
¬¸§Å «ÊôÀ¨¼Â¢ø ¿õ ÕÅâý ¸ÕòÐõ ´ýÚ ¾¡ý, «¾¢ø §ÅÚÀ¡Êø¨Ä.
"Ţúò¨¾ ±ôÀÊ ±Ø¾¢É¡ø ±ýÉ..?" - í§¸ ¿¡ý ÓÃñÀθ¢§Èý. ÒШÁôÀ¢ò¾É¢ý 'º¢ò¾¢' ¸¨¾¨Â ¿¡ý Å¡º¢ò¾¾¢ø¨Ä. «¨¾ò ¾¢¨ÃôÀ¼Á¡¸ô À¡÷òРú¢ò¾¢Õ츢§Èý. Á§¸ó¾¢ÃÛ¨¼Â «ó¾ "¯¾¢Ã¢ôâì¸û" ¾Á¢Æ¸ò¾¢ý ´ðΦÁ¡ò¾ô À¡Ã¡ð¨¼ô ¦ÀüÈÐ. ¾¨Ä º¢Èó¾ò ¾¢¨ÃôÀ¼í¸Ç¢ø ´ýÈ¡¸×õ ¸Õ¾ôÀθ¢ÈÐ. «¾¢ø ¸¨¾ ¿¡Â¸Û¼Â §Á¡ºÁ¡É ̽ò¨¾ «Å÷ ¦Áý¨Á¡¸ò ¾¡ý ¸¡ðÊ¢ÕôÀ¡÷. "¾¢ø ±ýÉ º¢ÈôÒ, «ó¾ Ţúò¨¾ ±ôÀÊ ¸¡ñÀ¢ò¾¡ø ¾¡ý ±ýÉ?" ±ýÚ Â¡Õõ «ô¦À¡ØÐ §¸ûÅ¢ §¸ð¸ Å¢ø¨Ä. ¬¸§Å À¨¼ôÀ¡Ç¢ìÌ ó¾ ¿¡¸Ã¢¸õ, ¦À¡ÚôÒ½÷× ,«Æ¸¢Âø ¯½÷ ( aesthetic sense) Á¢¸ Ó츢Âõ ±ýÀÐ ¦¾Ç¢×.
«§¾ ºÁÂõ ¿¡ý Áü¦È¡Õ Å¢¼Âò¨¾Ôõ ´ôÒì ¦¸¡û¸¢§Èý. ÀÄáÖõ À¡Ã¡ð¼ô Àθ¢ýÈ ¾¢.ƒ¡É¸¢Ã¡ÁÉ¢ý ¸¨¾¸¨Çì Ü÷óÐ ÀÊò¾ ¿ñÀ÷¸û º¢Ä÷ " ºì¸¨Ãò ¾¼Å¢Â «ÅÃÐ ±Øò¾¢ø «Ê¿¡¾Á¡¸ ÕìÌõ Å¢¼Âõ adultery ¾Å¢Ã §Å¦È¡ýÚõ ø¨Ä" ±ýÈ ÀÄÁ¡É ÌüÈî º¡ð¨¼ Óý ¨Å츢ýÈÉ÷. ±ÉìÌõ «ôÀÊò¾¡ý §¾¡ýÚ¸¢ÈÐ. «í§¸ ó¾ "Ţúõ, ¿Ç¢Éõ" §¸¡ðÀ¡¦¼øÄ¡õ ±ÎÀ¼Å¢ø¨Ä ±ýÀ¾È¢¸! ±ýÛ¨¼Â ó¾ ÓÃñÀð¼ ¿¢¨Ä¢ý ¿¢Â¡Âò¨¾, ¿£í¸û ÒâóÐ ¦¸¡ûÅ£÷¸û ±ýÚ ¿¢¨É츢§Èý.
- From: Jay (@ inehou-pxy05.compaq.com)
on: Mon Jan 22 10:33:56
I think your may be right about his negative attitude(perversion), english mixed writing, confused philosophies etc. It would be great and more helpful if you and other friends those who read more (like ravi sundaram, vaasan) are able to give a deep analysis based on his any particular work. Hope, It may lead us to another 'war' :-) All this depends upon your interest and what importance you give to his works.
Vaasan, thanks for the translation.
- From: umasankar (@ 202.9.160.107)
on: Mon Jan 29 00:51:36
I would like to know what yardsticks are taken into consideration when you guys try to criticise the giants like sujatha. Can anyone suggest some tamil writer who is more versatile?
- From: ravi sundaram (@ 192.149.1.187)
on: Mon Jan 29 08:44:50
Uma Shankar,
Let us hear from you, the yardstick YOU use to term someone a "giant". Volume of output? Popularity of the writing? The range of subjects handled? Let us assume we can arrive at a consensus on what makes one a "giant". Is there any reason why someone worthy of the title "giant" is above criticism?
Remember: "netrik kaN thiranthaalum kutram kutramE". Even God is not above criticism.
- From: chiyaan (@ 64.208.99.35)
on: Wed Feb 14 09:41:50
sarippaa,theriyaama eluthittaaru,vidungappaa!
varushakkanakkaa sandai poaduveenga poalirukku.
- From: Shan (@ )
on: Fri Oct 26 07:04:38
Yappa...Chiyaan... Neengalam Thiruntha Matteengala?
- From: AR rahman fan (@ ac9bba2c.ipt.aol.com)
on: Sun Nov 24 13:13:00
Illayaraja foot-tapper leads BBC World Service Top 10
Adi Rakamma featured in Dalapati, Mani Ratnam's runaway hit of the Nineties
N Sathiya Moorthy in Chennai
Adi Rakkamma, kaiya thattu, the foot-tapper rendered by S P Balasubramaniam and Swarnalatha, from Mani Ratnam's Tamil megahit Dalapati, starring Rajnikanth, leads BBC World Service's Top Ten list for the 70th anniversary celebrations.
Illayaraja scored the music for the film, a runaway hit in the Nineties.
Also on the Top Ten list, based on entries from 112 countries, are two other Indian songs. One is Vande Mataram, composed and sung by A R Rahman, at the fifth slot. Another Rahman-scorer Chaiyya chaiyya is at the seventh place.
The Indian three are from among the 1,000-odd songs in pop and rap, Western classical and African tribals listed in thousands of votes that have thus far been recorded.
The final list will be run by BBC World Service December 21, according to a BBC release.
- From: Preethi Ryan (@ 203.145.184.149)
on: Thu Mar 6 01:16:36
Sujatha Short Stories - Downloadable !!
You can download great Tamil short stories as electronic books from Sulekha.com
They have Sujatha Stories at this link:
http://www.sulekha.com/epress/listbooks.asp?cat=Fiction+%96+Tamil&ref=tfm
Several of them are nice and cost from $0.99 to $5.00
In particular there is a story by Sujatha written for Maniratnam's Kannathil Muthamittal.
This is an awesome story that is picturised in a nice fashion by Maniratnam in Kannathil Muthamittal.
That is available in this URL:
http://www.sulekha.com/epress/ebookdetail.asp?cid=EB_SUJATHA_B002&ref=tfm
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