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Source of a Quote/Verse attributed to Saint Vallalar
Source of a Quote/Verse attributed to Saint Vallalar
Topic started by Balamurali (@ 206.103.12.197) on Sun Oct 22 10:20:32 .
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Could someone help me in identifying the source of the following quote/verse attributed to Vallalar.
"kadai virithane kolvaar illai, kattivitane"
Is it from his Thirumuraigal or from prose works.
One of the persons with whom I had a discussion claims it is not said by Saint Vallalar at all and is just a "chevi vazhi cheithi".
Ma.Po.Si's work, "Vallalar kanda orumaipaadu" uses this quote as a chapter heading but does not contain any other info on the source.
Thanks in advance,
Balamurali
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Responses:
- From: Mani M. Manivannan (@ sji-ca-cache2.icg.net)
on: Mon Oct 23 03:19:32 EDT 2000
I also recall Ma. Po. Si.'s book and that chapter heading. I looked for that quote in the Samarasa Sanmaarkka ArAychi nilayam edition of the six thirumurais of thiruvarutpa as well as the prose volume. I have not been able to find that quote or such pessimistic sentiments so far. In your quote I am not sure about the "kattivittene" part. I will keep looking.
- From: Balamurali (@ 206.103.12.197)
on: Mon Oct 23 07:22:27 EDT 2000
I had a discussion with an elder on this issue. I am just summing up the discussion here.
1) Vallalar's Sixth Thirumurai is drastically different from the previous Five Thirumurais. The Sixth Thirumurai completely moves away from Bhakthi and rejects all such practices.
2) Many people did not take kindly this new development/evolution in the sayings/teachings of Vallalar.
3) The quote given above was response of Vallalar to the reaction of the people who could not understand/follow the truth propounded by Vallalar in his last days and which were later published in his Sixth Thirumurai.
4) The word "kattiviten" means that he has put down the truth in writing for later generation to study and understand.
I would like to request the learned members to respond to these observations.
Thanks,
Balamurali
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