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- From: Chandra (@ user-38lc5qs.dialup.mindspring.com)
on: Mon Nov 22 22:25:57
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- From: Pas (@ pcpas.comm.utoronto.ca)
on: Wed Nov 24 13:17:40
Ananth,
To continue the discussion from VVV about ummaiththogai and v.k.u;
1.I will try to find a ref for my statement.
I am not sure though if I can succeed....
2. since ummaiththogai does not create vali migai, thippili chukku can't have an oRRu. The only rule which will supercede the ummaith thogai rule is the vanRodar K.ugaram case, I think. ( v.k.u applies regardless of any other rule also which may disallow vali migai .As Chandra mentions, and my recollection goes, v.k.u is a pretty powerful rule!). As I mentioned , I can't back up my statement with an explicit ref in a modern book. But this is the interpretation of the rules as I remember. Note that oRRu migai happens because of v.k.u and not just any k.u etc.
3. Thippilic chukku will mean a different type of thogai interpreatation , and not a ummaith thogai.
Perhaps "iddily chutni thOsai" is another similar example of ummaiththogai with no oRRu migai? Comments from Avaiyor?
- From: vEnkatan (@ 207.18.199.140)
on: Wed Nov 24 16:23:30
From: venky (@ usr13-dialup57.mix1.irving.cw.net) on: Wed Apr 7 05:40:55
* DONT-5: ummaith thogaiyil oRRu varAdhu
(though it is very obvious, just wanted to list it)
example: nadippu paattu enakkuk kaivandha kalai
(and not ndaippup paattu)
This is what I posted about 7 months back in this 'oRRilakkaNam' thread. I will be interested to see any reference/examples to support/oppose this.
- From: Pas (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu)
on: Wed Nov 24 17:24:12
From "ҽâÂø" §¸.ყ¸¡À¡Ä¡îº¡Ã¢Â¡÷, October 1997. p. 150-151.
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- From: Chandra (@ fw-atlanta.atlanta.usweb.com)
on: Wed Nov 24 17:40:25
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- From: Pas (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu)
on: Wed Nov 24 18:54:37
Chandra,
Actually I think there are two such cases ...!
One is : Eval ; "kuppu! thaa!"
Second: vinaith thogai. "Ittupugazh"
And I think these are the only two exceptions to the otherwise "God-like" v.k.u!
- From: ananth (@ empe-port6.net.mcmaster.ca)
on: Wed Nov 24 20:52:44
Pas, Chandra and vEnkatan:
As I had already posted to Chandra, I will *completely* obey the rule since it is a written rule and not just a convention. Again, as I said it is just my *personal* feeling that, for the same reason why it applies to v.k.u, it should apply to certain other word joinings (like thippili+chukku could (but acc. to rule must not) have the 'c' in the middle. To sum, I do see now very clearly why v.k.u. is an exception in ummaiththogai.
As for exceptions, Pas has cracked the puthir! May be we can air other puNarcci exceptions like when does valloRRu mikaamai fail for IRuketta ethirmaRaippeyareccam? and so on. (Writing in a hurry.. got to go)
- From: Vanchi (@ isdn2.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Thu Nov 25 00:21:52
I'd be happy if the vanRodatark kuRRiyalukram related rules can be illustrated in a full sentence, for example in the following one:
¿¡ý ¦ºí¸øÀðÎ Àø ÁÕòÐŨÃî ºó¾¢ò¾ ¦À¡ØÐ
¦º¡ýÉ ¸¡ü§È¡Î §À¡öÅ¢ð¼Ð.
- From: Vanchi (@ isdn2.pppmad.vsnl.net.in) on: Thu Nov 25 00:24:52
Please add a 'thu' before 'kaRROdu"
(sonnathu kaaRROdu..)
- From: Pas (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu) on: Thu Nov 25 07:40:28
Vanchi,
? "connathu" and "pozuthu" are not v.k.u in your sentence...
- From: ananth (@ empd-port19.net.mcmaster.ca) on: Thu Nov 25 07:52:45
Sorry, my last posting was in too much of a hurry so that my example of exception to oRRumikaamai was not worded properly; the correct way is to say that although valloRRu mikAmai applies to peyareccams, the exception is if it becomes an IRuketta ethirmaRaippeyreccam (eg. nalla paiyan versus cellAkkAsu). Re Chandra's question another important exception in the v.k.u. case is when you get panmai by adding 'kaL' like pAttukaL (instead of pAttukkaL). As for Vanchi's sentence, except for an p between c.pattu (-the all-important v.k.u.) and pal , the rest is correct. There is very "cute" little book called "pizai nIkki ezuthum muRai", a thamizp pAthukAppuk kazaka veLiyIdu (32nd edition! 1989) published by kazakam (I bought it in cennai). It gives a lot of very nice practical examples of puNarcci. It sells for less than Rs. 10! and very worth buying.
- From: Pas (@ pcpas.comm.utoronto.ca) on: Thu Nov 25 10:09:17
Ananth,
I am sure if we keep thinking we can find more exceptions to v.k.u: Let me suggest the following and I will let AvaiyOr correct/comment :
e.g. vairamuththup pAttu, but vairamuththu thirumagan since thirumagan is uyarthiNai;
perhaps vairamuththu bagavaan is also correct since the varumozi is Sanskrit!
Vanchi,
Perhaps you can think of a sentence with v.k.u with all the exceptions along with a few where oRRu migai will happen!
- From: Chandra (@ user-38lca1j.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Thu Nov 25 12:14:00
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- From: Pas (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu) on: Thu Nov 25 22:47:38
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- From: Chandra (@ user-38lcc7j.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Thu Nov 25 23:06:18
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- From: Pas (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu) on: Fri Nov 26 07:30:58
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